|
Post by tattoo on Jan 29, 2017 17:40:01 GMT -8
maxed out, NO, you are near a min of 5% charge rate. Wow that's no where near what I thought I was at.... No wonder it's taking so long to charge up to full float.. I'm still not at full charge but we have had some cloudy days and I turned my fridge on but it's holding at 12.3 over night.. I've seen it as much as 13.3 during the day but the batteries haven't stayed at 12.7 yet... What would you suggest??
|
|
|
Post by tattoo on Jan 29, 2017 17:44:15 GMT -8
By the way that's an awesome Charge controller I'm going to check into one of them for sure....
Another question will that CC work with a wind charger???
|
|
|
Post by rabird on Jan 30, 2017 5:05:32 GMT -8
PWM CC can only handle '12v' panels. Your MPPT can handle 100V input.
As far as planning, I base that on daily usage and average irradance for you location/time of year.
You batteries need to fully charged from time to time for long life. Your controller is supposed to get them to 14.8v and hold that for 2 hrs on a regular basis. Letting them stay discharged allows the sulfate to harden and possible never be reversed, this causes a loss of capacity.
|
|
|
Post by tattoo on Jan 30, 2017 6:09:48 GMT -8
You batteries need to fully charged from time to time for long life. Your controller is supposed to get them to 14.8v and hold that for 2 hrs on a regular basis. Letting them stay discharged allows the sulfate to harden and possible never be reversed, this causes a loss of capacity. Yea that's what I was thinking..... I think I might have a problem with my batteries. In 48 hours my fridge has used only 0.77w at least that's what my killawatts meter says. By the way I haven't seen more than 13.3v yet.....
|
|
|
Post by tattoo on Jan 30, 2017 6:11:19 GMT -8
Also I have figured out that a wind CC is totally different... But at least I'm learning... LOL
|
|
|
Post by tattoo on Jan 30, 2017 8:20:29 GMT -8
Ok I think something is wrong with my charge controller. O just went and looked and my panels are putting out 65v and my batteries are at 12.0... I'm going to call Renogy when they wake up....
|
|
|
Post by tattoo on Jan 30, 2017 14:47:55 GMT -8
Well before I called Renogy I took 2 of the 4 batteries out of the system.... Well low and behold I seen as much as 13.8v and 14a charging?? That's more than I've ever seen..... Now I'm wondering why??
|
|
|
Post by jsb2000 on Feb 2, 2017 16:06:51 GMT -8
You may have a bad battery or the entire bank is just so thirsty for power that the controller/panels can't supply enough juice.
|
|
|
Post by tattoo on Feb 2, 2017 18:29:26 GMT -8
I changed out my entire bank of batteries two days ago....... My problem is fixed.. I seen 14.8 volts for the first time... my batteries are staying around 12.9 at night when idle... Before they would be 12.2 at night after a sunny day at idle....I like these batteries much better. Now I can start seeing what I can run at night....
Thanks for everyones help...
|
|
|
Post by tattoo on Feb 2, 2017 18:36:57 GMT -8
Oh yea, I did find out that my 2000w inverter was using at idle more power than I've been using out right. So I ordered a 500w inverter to run all the time and keep the 2000w for times when I need the extra power...
What do you guys think and how would you suggest I hook it up.. I have a good idea but I would like some suggestions. Thanks
|
|
|
Post by jsb2000 on Feb 4, 2017 9:34:37 GMT -8
Oh yea, I did find out that my 2000w inverter was using at idle more power than I've been using out right. So I ordered a 500w inverter to run all the time and keep the 2000w for times when I need the extra power... While it's certainly a good idea to run a lower capacity inverter whenever possible, an even better idea is to try to eliminate using an inverter as much as possible in the first place. That's what I opted to do. When I first got into using solar power, my thought process was essentially "Power everything I currently run exactly as before, but substitute the sun for the stuff coming out of the wall." Based on what I've read in my travels around the Internet, that's a common "mistake" that most beginners make. You quickly discover that solar just cannot accommodate that methodology. Or, more accurately, it cannot accommodate that methodology unless you're willing to set up a massive solar farm and battery bank at great expense. After reality sets in, you start to find ways to reduce your energy requirements and usage. One of the best things you can do in that regard is to purchase/use/adapt items to run at 12VDC instead of items that require an inverter. Waste not, want not. Inverters can waste around 5-20% power in the conversion process! So...it's 12VDC LED strips/lamps instead of 120VAC fluorescent lamps/bulbs. It's connecting modems and routers that use a wall wart directly to the load output of the controller. It's recharging cell phones and tablets using car cigarette lighter USB adapters rather than wall warts. It's powering/charging laptops with a "car adapter" rather than a standard one through an inverter. And so on. You also learn to turn off lights and devices when you leave the room/RV. And, if you must use an inverter, to use it sparingly. I have an inverter, but it usually gathers a nice layer of dust on it between uses. Run it 24 hours a day? Never! how would you suggest I hook it up. Right to the battery bank, of course.
|
|
|
Post by tattoo on Feb 4, 2017 19:09:29 GMT -8
^^^ Yep I'm learning very quick what you can do and what you can't.. I think I have a good handle on it now.. I thing I'm still trying to figure out is how are you running a fridge if your not running an inverter 24 7?
|
|
|
Post by jsb2000 on Feb 5, 2017 10:11:34 GMT -8
I thing I'm still trying to figure out is how are you running a fridge if your not running an inverter 24 7? Hint: Where is it written that all refrigerators must operate at 120VAC? Google "12VDC refrigerator" and look at the results. In fact, that applies to most things. You want an appliance/device that runs at 12VDC instead of 120VAC? Google it. Guaranteed that, most of the time, it exists. If not, there's usually a way to get there with a little "outside the box" thinking. For example, I wanted a 12VDC vacuum cleaner. I didn't like the ones that were available, but there were some that run on batteries. So, I found one I liked and use rechargeable batteries in it. Take a wild guess what I use to recharge those batteries: Yup, a 12VDC charger! It also helps to have a background in electronics. You'll find that most things really run on some kind of DC voltage on the inside and get there by converting from 120VAC either externally with a wall wart or internally using a conversion board. 12VDC wall warts are easy: Snip snip and attach. Internal may require a bit of modification, but if you know what you're doing, it's easy.
|
|
|
Post by tattoo on Feb 5, 2017 12:47:51 GMT -8
I know there are 12v appliances... I was told by the Renogy tech people that 12v items aren't that much more efficient so right now I'm not going that way but thanks for the advice...
|
|
|
Post by rabird on Feb 5, 2017 13:29:36 GMT -8
120v fridges don't 'run' all the time, an inverter that auto shuts off might be a good choice.
I won't run an inverter unless something is spinning, maybe if I had a enough capacity that would change. Buit pier and bridge with a Kal Mule idling using a 1000w inverter.
|
|