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Post by tattoo on Dec 26, 2017 6:22:58 GMT -8
I usually fill the hydro and then squirt it back in to mix up the fluid, (good charging does this with bubbles mixing the fluid), then suck some up for a reading. When done I suck up some distilled water to rinse the hydro for storage. Damn tattoo bird when did you start using a hydrometer... I remember when you used to argue with me about them... I'm really glad your coming over to the {kiss} side of solar.... And not so much the engineer side...
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Post by tattoo on Dec 26, 2017 6:25:54 GMT -8
Tattoo you use the hydrometer. Mine should be here in a couple of days. Can I check it hooked up under load at 24 volt in series. Do I need to disconnect the batteries and test them individually at 12 volt no load? I check mine at night with a minimal load... Bird can't check his with a hydrometer he uses small sealed batteries...
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Post by jimmy on Dec 26, 2017 11:37:13 GMT -8
Thanks for the hydro tip. I have 1500 watts. When I go to check the pv panels can I shut the pv breaker down and turn it back on during the day when it the inverter is shut off without damaging anything? It may still be charging the batteries when I shut it down. I heard not to turn it off or on unless it is dark. What do you think?
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Post by jimmy on Dec 26, 2017 11:55:19 GMT -8
Had a single panel not hooked up to check first. Got 22volt with the meter good. Just getting 1 on amp. I am doing something wrong. Tried several things. I think I should move the red wire to 10DC. Then the meter dial to DCA 200u or 200m. Can you help more with how to check amps?
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Post by tattoo on Dec 26, 2017 14:25:21 GMT -8
Thanks for the hydro tip. I have 1500 watts. When I go to check the pv panels can I shut the pv breaker down and turn it back on during the day when it the inverter is shut off without damaging anything? It may still be charging the batteries when I shut it down. I heard not to turn it off or on unless it is dark. What do you think? Sure you can cut the panels off during the day it won't hurt a thing... I've done it several times when I was upgrading my system... But not the batteries first... The panels first..
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Post by jimmy on Dec 26, 2017 14:32:08 GMT -8
Thanks
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Post by jimmy on Dec 26, 2017 15:15:18 GMT -8
Its dark etracer shows not charging. External Battery meter shows 25.75 volts. Etracer shows 25.86 volts close enough. Why is soc at 38%. Soc is always puzzles me. 25.86 with no pv input should be 100%. I don't understand. Etracer shows pv generated 1.5kwh today it was 1.9 yesterday. Is that normal for 1500 watts of panels with a mppt controller on a partly cloudy winter day in florida?
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Post by tattoo on Dec 26, 2017 15:49:48 GMT -8
Its dark etracer shows not charging. External Battery meter shows 25.75 volts. Etracer shows 25.86 volts close enough. Why is soc at 38%. Soc is always puzzles me. 25.86 with no pv input should be 100%. I don't understand. Etracer shows pv generated 1.5kwh today it was 1.9 yesterday. Is that normal for 1500 watts of panels with a mppt controller on a partly cloudy winter day in florida? Let me say this again SOC means NOTHING ignore it.... Now does that make sense? It shouldn't even be on there... Yes that makes sense even on a cloudy day with just 2 batteries... Remember with just 2 batteries what power you don't use by your draw goes to the batteries and the rest is cut out by the CC... It's wasted.... Because it has no where to go.... {KISS}
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Post by jimmy on Dec 26, 2017 16:57:14 GMT -8
Yes thanks, 2 hours of darkness later meter reads 25.71v only .04 lower but soc goes up to 68%, its broken. Thanks Tattoo. 4 batteries soon that is all that I can fit in for now with out overhaul.
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Post by rabird on Dec 26, 2017 18:47:34 GMT -8
if your batteries never get to 29.2v then there is no need for more batteries. if it gets that high then panel output is limited to maintain that for some time. If your use prevents batts from getting to 29+v then they will not be fully charged and extras will be a waste. To measure amps DC, set the meter to 10A and the red probe goes in the 10A hole and the black goes in com. www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZf-sm3UXX0
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Post by tattoo on Dec 26, 2017 19:08:18 GMT -8
Bird he already has wasted power now... You told me the same thing not to add my 2 more batteries and you were wrong.... With 1500w of panels and just 2 100ah batteries is a joke... He should really check his usage with a Killawatt meter and only use half of what he makes everyday... {KISS}
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Post by rabird on Dec 27, 2017 6:37:24 GMT -8
sulfated batteries ha ha ha 3 days to recharge ha ha ah
KISS, see above
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Post by jimmy on Dec 27, 2017 14:06:49 GMT -8
Thanks I found the amp. Realized all I need to do is google it. My batteries get to 29.2 almost every day. I am getting 2 more when I get the 3000 watt inverter in a few days. I checked each of the 5 panel banks. They all tested right at 113 volts. Somehow I was expecting 339 when they joined together but realized its like combining 2 24 volt banks in parallel and I still get 24 volts. I really looked at the wiring and connectors. Some connectors I ordered fit tighter than others. I noticed some of the female prongs were smaller. The look like they are not uniform. That was my concern. Another cloudy day in Florida. My problem with batteries is like you suggested I should probably set the 14 month of aside and replace it with a new on when I add the other two. I guess then If I buy 8 batteries and one dies after a year I should replace all 8. I think Ill keep the 14month and deal with it. By the way Merry Christmas to yall or whatever you celebrate. Peace and good will. Thanks for your assistance trying to save the planet and helping me do that. Jim
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Post by tattoo on Dec 27, 2017 16:08:28 GMT -8
sulfated batteries ha ha ha 3 days to recharge ha ha ah KISS, see above LOL What the hell are you talking about? LOL You are about as far from a kiss solar system as anyone that I have seen..
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Post by tattoo on Dec 27, 2017 16:19:19 GMT -8
My batteries get to 29.2 almost every day. Jim I had a feeling they were. Bird was just jumping to conclusions like usual.. You need to stay with an even number of batteries so try the 14 month old battery you might be fine... I was thinking about what you said that you are making 1.8 kwh a day with 15 panels in full sun? Do you have many trees that block the sun? I'm making around 1.1kwh a day with just 8 panels and I have a good bit of shade trees.. Clear with no trees in the way sun for about 2 hours this time of year... I'm thinking the difference is in the CC.. kiss Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year...
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